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			<title>mikep on "Connecting two TTL serial I/O&#039;s directly"</title>
			<link>http://forums.leaflabs.com/topic.php?id=589#post-3283</link>
			<pubDate>Sun, 02 Jan 2011 22:49:19 +0000</pubDate>
			<dc:creator>mikep</dc:creator>
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			<description>&#60;p&#62;Cool!&#60;br /&#62;
That is good to know ...&#60;br /&#62;
Thanks for the update.
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			<title>ianmga on "Connecting two TTL serial I/O&#039;s directly"</title>
			<link>http://forums.leaflabs.com/topic.php?id=589#post-3279</link>
			<pubDate>Sun, 02 Jan 2011 17:28:34 +0000</pubDate>
			<dc:creator>ianmga</dc:creator>
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			<description>&#60;p&#62;Hey, it worked, nothing cooks!
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			<title>gbulmer on "Connecting two TTL serial I/O&#039;s directly"</title>
			<link>http://forums.leaflabs.com/topic.php?id=589#post-3264</link>
			<pubDate>Thu, 30 Dec 2010 14:06:05 +0000</pubDate>
			<dc:creator>gbulmer</dc:creator>
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			<description>&#60;p&#62;@mikep - no harm done, and you did give an excellent answer which is what the OP needed, and anyone else who finds this thread in the future.&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;Happy New Year ;-)
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			<title>mikep on "Connecting two TTL serial I/O&#039;s directly"</title>
			<link>http://forums.leaflabs.com/topic.php?id=589#post-3263</link>
			<pubDate>Thu, 30 Dec 2010 13:17:02 +0000</pubDate>
			<dc:creator>mikep</dc:creator>
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			<description>&#60;p&#62;@gbulmer&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;I know I know :), point taken. I'm an electronics engineer by trade so I was indoctrinated using exact terminology, even though many times the real world seems to be more &#34;fuzzy&#34;...
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			<title>ianmga on "Connecting two TTL serial I/O&#039;s directly"</title>
			<link>http://forums.leaflabs.com/topic.php?id=589#post-3260</link>
			<pubDate>Thu, 30 Dec 2010 11:35:44 +0000</pubDate>
			<dc:creator>ianmga</dc:creator>
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			<description>&#60;p&#62;@mikep, thanks a lot. That's what I wanted to know. I'll use the resistor.
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			<title>gbulmer on "Connecting two TTL serial I/O&#039;s directly"</title>
			<link>http://forums.leaflabs.com/topic.php?id=589#post-3257</link>
			<pubDate>Thu, 30 Dec 2010 09:47:23 +0000</pubDate>
			<dc:creator>gbulmer</dc:creator>
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			<description>&#60;blockquote&#62;&#60;p&#62;&#34;TTL&#34; usually implies 5V logic, 3.3V devices usually use LVTTL&#60;/p&#62;&#60;/blockquote&#62;
&#60;p&#62;I try not to ASSuME too much :-)&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;FTDI USB to serial cables are described as TTL, but are sold in 5V and 3V3 versions.&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;&#60;a href=&#34;http://uk.farnell.com/ftdi/ttl-232r-3v3/cable-usb-to-ttl-level-seri-converter/dp/1329311&#34; rel=&#34;nofollow&#34;&#62;http://uk.farnell.com/ftdi/ttl-232r-3v3/cable-usb-to-ttl-level-seri-converter/dp/1329311&#60;/a&#62;
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			<title>mikep on "Connecting two TTL serial I/O&#039;s directly"</title>
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			<pubDate>Thu, 30 Dec 2010 00:06:23 +0000</pubDate>
			<dc:creator>mikep</dc:creator>
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			<description>&#60;p&#62;&#34;TTL&#34; usually implies 5V logic, 3.3V devices usually use LVTTL, which has lower voltage levels.&#60;br /&#62;
Some of the STM32/Maple pins are 5V-tolerant, see here:&#60;br /&#62;
&#60;a href=&#34;http://leaflabs.com/docs/gpio.html#pin-mapping-mega-table&#34; rel=&#34;nofollow&#34;&#62;http://leaflabs.com/docs/gpio.html#pin-mapping-mega-table&#60;/a&#62;&#60;br /&#62;
So the USART1/USART3 pins are 5v-tolerant, but USART2 pins are not!&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;Even when using a 5V tolerant pin, I usually put a resistor (about 1k) into the Rx and Tx lines, just in case you hook the two Tx lines together accidentally. You should not need a voltage divider or level shifter: a voltage of &#38;lt;0.8V equals &#34;0&#34; in LVTTL and in TTL. And the &#34;1&#34; voltage in LVTTL (&#38;gt;2.4V) should be recognized by standard TTL as a &#34;1&#34; as well. Nice diagram here:&#60;br /&#62;
&#60;a href=&#34;http://www.interfacebus.com/voltage_LV_threshold.html&#34; rel=&#34;nofollow&#34;&#62;http://www.interfacebus.com/voltage_LV_threshold.html&#60;/a&#62;&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62; So you can hook 2 Maple's together without problems, but I would still recommend the 1k resistor for the same reason: if you accidentally connect the two Tx lines and they are both using push-pull output mode you can fry the outputs.
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			<title>gbulmer on "Connecting two TTL serial I/O&#039;s directly"</title>
			<link>http://forums.leaflabs.com/topic.php?id=589#post-3254</link>
			<pubDate>Wed, 29 Dec 2010 21:59:11 +0000</pubDate>
			<dc:creator>gbulmer</dc:creator>
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			<description>&#60;p&#62;Are both serial running at the same voltage?
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			<title>ianmga on "Connecting two TTL serial I/O&#039;s directly"</title>
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			<pubDate>Wed, 29 Dec 2010 16:47:20 +0000</pubDate>
			<dc:creator>ianmga</dc:creator>
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			<description>&#60;p&#62;Is it possible to connect 2 TTL serials directly or is this going to fry something? How about between two Maple's? (And of course making TX-&#38;gt;RX / RX-&#38;gt;TX )&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62; Ian
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