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			<title>gbulmer on "Maple vs Arduino decission"</title>
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			<pubDate>Wed, 29 Jan 2014 07:54:07 +0000</pubDate>
			<dc:creator>gbulmer</dc:creator>
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			<description>&#60;p&#62;samtal - I don't work for LeafLabs, and I don't call myself an expert. However, let me offer some views.&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;Clearly I like STM32F and Maple. However, I am ready and willing to use Arduino (I am using it on a project at the moment).&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;So it may be that some simple, clear differences are all the criteria needed to make a rational choice.&#60;br /&#62;
If an Arduino does everything the project is likely to need, you are happy to use its libraries and IDE, and the end-user is happy or takes your recommendation, then it seems a pretty straightforward decision to me.&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;How big is the data that you are storing in EEPROM? Might it all fit within the STM32F's battery-backed RAM area? IIRC is much faster to write a few bytes into that than EEPROM. I can't think of any other decision criteria based on the project description.&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;Some of your feedback, and others, about the Maple's power supply went into the Community Maple re-designs. &#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;Some of the specific changes in &#60;a href=&#34;https://github.com/gbulmer/openstm32hw/tree/master/Orone-mini-v0&#34;&#62;Orone-mini&#60;/a&#62; are intended to provide a more robust power supply (at github: &#60;a href=&#34;https://github.com/gbulmer/openstm32hw/tree/master/Orone-mini-v0&#34; rel=&#34;nofollow&#34;&#62;https://github.com/gbulmer/openstm32hw/tree/master/Orone-mini-v0&#60;/a&#62; )&#60;br /&#62;
It has a polyfuse protecting the USB host, ESD protection, and a larger digital-supply voltage regulator with more headroom.&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;I am surprised that the PS diode failed, and resulted in a permanent short to ground. I don't think I've seen that failure-mode. If I understood your comment, you removed the PS diode, and the short-to-ground persisted; is that accurate?
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			<title>samtal on "Maple vs Arduino decission"</title>
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			<pubDate>Wed, 29 Jan 2014 06:34:56 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description>&#60;p&#62;After almost two years away from Maple, I started an old-new project.&#60;br /&#62;
In the meantime, I had the chance to look at Arduino Mega, and even ported a simple Maple-r5 project to the Mega, which worked nicely.&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;I now have to decide whether to build the new project with Maple or with Arduino.&#60;br /&#62;
The cons for Arduino: (1) EEPROM that enables very large number write / read and (2) The use of one USB port for everything (I only need one!).&#60;br /&#62;
The Maple pro's are mainly its speed (32 bits, 70 Mhz).&#60;br /&#62;
(Another project with 10 12-bits Analog with DMA could only be done on the Maple) &#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;One more thing: I have some doubts about Maples hardware reliability: I lost 4 Maples-r5 by connecting an external 9V Power-supply, for no apparent reason.&#60;br /&#62;
As soon as I connected the PS (any), the external PS serial diode went up in smoke, and a permanent short to ground persisted, even after removing all components from the board).&#60;br /&#62;
Being an experienced electrical engineer, I tested everything I could think of, like jumpers, ground loops, spikes, over-voltage, but could not find the reason.&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;I would like to read LeafLabs' or any other experts' comments on my observations before I make my decision.&#60;br /&#62;
Thanks,&#60;br /&#62;
samtal
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