http://forums.leaflabs.com/topic.php?id=710 A place to share, learn, and grow... en-US Fri, 22 Jan 2016 00:07:23 +0000 http://bbpress.org/?v=1.0.2 q http://forums.leaflabs.com/search.php http://forums.leaflabs.com/topic.php?id=710&page=2#post-5778 Wed, 27 Jul 2011 23:09:08 +0000 robodude666 5778@http://forums.leaflabs.com/ <p>Guess who's winning?</p> <p><a href="http://i51.tinypic.com/24e2ob7.png" rel="nofollow">http://i51.tinypic.com/24e2ob7.png</a> </p> http://forums.leaflabs.com/topic.php?id=710&page=2#post-5711 Fri, 22 Jul 2011 10:55:53 +0000 poslathian 5711@http://forums.leaflabs.com/ <p>thanks for helping to tidy it up. The anon edits have been disabled. I think perhaps those that were arguing to keep it open to anon edits decrease the barrier to contribution were not the same people who were cleaning up the spam all the time... ;) </p> http://forums.leaflabs.com/topic.php?id=710&page=2#post-5706 Fri, 22 Jul 2011 05:40:03 +0000 josiah47 5706@http://forums.leaflabs.com/ <p>I agree get this fixed up so our efforts into the wiki are not in vain. I don't want to add anything and work for it if it is just going to get messed up. </p> http://forums.leaflabs.com/topic.php?id=710&page=2#post-5688 Tue, 19 Jul 2011 16:33:26 +0000 gbulmer 5688@http://forums.leaflabs.com/ <p>I am admin on some google-groups, and "moderator account approval" seems to reduce spam by a large amount.<br /> Always using some form of CAPTCHA before changing a page seems like a 'no brainer'.</p> <p>As becker pointed out here:<br /> <a href="http://forums.leaflabs.com/topic.php?id=308&amp;page=4" rel="nofollow">http://forums.leaflabs.com/topic.php?id=308&amp;page=4</a><br /> allowing the spam to persist for a few hours may be enough to make it worthwhile for the spammer.<br /> So it pretty-much needs to be prevented rather than quickly tidied up. </p> http://forums.leaflabs.com/topic.php?id=710&page=2#post-5687 Tue, 19 Jul 2011 16:22:49 +0000 robodude666 5687@http://forums.leaflabs.com/ <p>gbulmer, some people as I've pointed out, have registered accounts and are spamming, however it's very easy to register an account via a simple Python CURL script. Adding reCAPTCHA, email verification, and moderator account approval will stop or greatly slow down these scripts. </p> http://forums.leaflabs.com/topic.php?id=710&page=2#post-5686 Tue, 19 Jul 2011 16:21:11 +0000 robodude666 5686@http://forums.leaflabs.com/ <p>User accounts <code>Spimar</code> and <code>Onysarg</code>, as well as <code>Rechhare</code>, <code>Magrem</code> have posted spam recently. Pages have been erased with "delete me" text. </p> http://forums.leaflabs.com/topic.php?id=710&page=2#post-5682 Tue, 19 Jul 2011 15:36:55 +0000 gbulmer 5682@http://forums.leaflabs.com/ <p>robodude666 -<br /> <blockquote>I feel that just about ALL wiki spam can be stopped with two changes:</p> <p>- Required Registration with Moderator account approval/email verification<br /> - reCAPTCHA on any change.</p></blockquote> <p>I strongly agree with you. </p> <p>The one time I have needed to reference someone to the wiki it was vandalised. So I never refer anyone to it because it may get broken and put them off.</p> <p>I have not seen an analysis of who has made contributions to the wiki, and is not a member (probably impossible to do accurately), so I may be wrong, but I would be surprised if there are many folks who contribute and would be unwilling to be a member.</p> <p>Ideally, my forum membership would work on the wiki so that I don't have to register twice (and manage two identities).<br /> If this were the mechanism, it may be that most folks would find the need need for non-anonymous contribution invisible. </p> http://forums.leaflabs.com/topic.php?id=710&page=2#post-5678 Tue, 19 Jul 2011 10:08:09 +0000 robodude666 5678@http://forums.leaflabs.com/ <p>User accounts <code>Neombro</code> and <code>Tangene</code> created on July 19th, 2011 at 13:56 and 14:13 respectively are posting spam in the wiki.</p> <p>IP address <a href="http://wiki.leaflabs.com/index.php?title=Special:Contributions/109.73.78.98">109.73.78.98</a> has been posting spam since July 15th. </p> http://forums.leaflabs.com/topic.php?id=710&page=2#post-5677 Tue, 19 Jul 2011 09:55:05 +0000 robodude666 5677@http://forums.leaflabs.com/ <p>Created an account on the wiki for future edits I'll be making regarding new libraries &amp; such. While visiting the wiki, I reverted/deleted some 40ish spam pages/changes. Someone tried to vandalize marti's page LOL.</p> <p>I feel that just about ALL wiki spam can be stopped with two changes:</p> <p>- Required Registration with Moderator account approval/email verification<br /> - reCAPTCHA on any change.</p> <p>It's too easy to modify an existing page, or create a new page filled with spam anonymously. I understand that required registration will deter small helpful changes by users, but it will greatly reduce the amount of spam making the wiki a more useful tool with information people can trust. While an open anonymous system works for the real wikipedia, because they have nearly an infinitely sized army of people watching for changes, it doesn't work very well on a small wiki with only a handful of moderators/good samaritans. </p> http://forums.leaflabs.com/topic.php?id=710#post-5666 Sun, 17 Jul 2011 00:57:54 +0000 rednaxela 5666@http://forums.leaflabs.com/ <p>IIRC, CAPTCHA plugins for Mediawiki often support a mode where you allow anonymous edits, but it asks for a CAPTCHA to be solved if the edit is a change that involved a URL. That would stop the spam in it's tracks while being minimally intrusive. </p> http://forums.leaflabs.com/topic.php?id=710#post-5557 Wed, 06 Jul 2011 12:02:22 +0000 mbolivar 5557@http://forums.leaflabs.com/ <p>becker,</p> <p>Thanks for all your help on the Wiki. We've noticed all the pages you've been fixing, and we really appreciate it.</p> <p>For now, I'm just watching the recent changes pages closely, and blocking any IPs that vandalize or spam for 3 months or so. Hopefully that will help stem the tide until we get something better. I don't want to restrict editing to members only on such a young wiki, as I worry that it will really discourage the sort of one-off edits that help to contribute towards critical mass. However, it may be reasonable to restrict the creation of new pages to registered members, and put a solid CAPTCHA on the registration page. </p> http://forums.leaflabs.com/topic.php?id=710#post-5527 Tue, 05 Jul 2011 08:45:15 +0000 poslathian 5527@http://forums.leaflabs.com/ <p>Thanks everyone for their vigilance. We are working on restoring a recent snapshot of the wiki and upgrading our mediawiki server. Thankfully its running on a separate server, which makes maintenance a lot easier! </p> http://forums.leaflabs.com/topic.php?id=710#post-5522 Tue, 05 Jul 2011 07:16:22 +0000 gbulmer 5522@http://forums.leaflabs.com/ <p>Is it possible to restrict access to the wiki to members?<br /> I accept that might be a disincentive to add to the wiki, but right now, it may be an even bigger annoyance to have pages disappear. </p> http://forums.leaflabs.com/topic.php?id=710#post-5519 Mon, 04 Jul 2011 13:13:04 +0000 BruceF 5519@http://forums.leaflabs.com/ <p>You're right becker, that's some persistent spamming, but I don't think it's difficult for the wiki-aware to understand your reversions. I think LeafLabs needs to promote a few wiki-wackers the same way they promoted some forum members to moderator status. That way the OCD community can clean the wiki and staff can focus on getting Oak out the door. ;) </p> http://forums.leaflabs.com/topic.php?id=710#post-5518 Mon, 04 Jul 2011 11:40:12 +0000 becker 5518@http://forums.leaflabs.com/ <p>This spammer is persistent. He keep coming back and changing the just-repaired pages. </p> <p>Some of the changes seem to be simple vandalism: substituting nonsense and short mis-spelled sentences. But later the same pages used for link spam. So I suspect the two changes are coordinated to make the spam more difficult to automatically block. </p>