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		<title>LeafLabs Garden &#187; Topic: “Project Idea” contest – win a STM32F4DISCOVERY kit</title>
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			<title>bubulindo on "“Project Idea” contest – win a STM32F4DISCOVERY kit"</title>
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			<pubDate>Mon, 23 Jan 2012 16:31:58 +0000</pubDate>
			<dc:creator>bubulindo</dc:creator>
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			<description>&#60;p&#62;Freelance... I'm not quite used to that.
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			<title>gbulmer on "“Project Idea” contest – win a STM32F4DISCOVERY kit"</title>
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			<pubDate>Mon, 23 Jan 2012 08:39:55 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description>&#60;p&#62;bubulindo -&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;blockquote&#62;&#60;p&#62;Know where I can find such a job?&#60;/p&#62;
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&#60;p&#62;Monster.com, etc?&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;I did an ad-hoc check last November, and in the UK, experienced freelance hardware engineers charged about £240/day, over $360/day. So I am allowing more than 70% for self-employment expenses. Competent software engineers earn similar salaries, and demonstrably good ones, much more. Competent off-shore software engineers could cost customers $200/day 5 years ago (I was in that business).&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;AFAIK, employment statistics indicate there is a shortage of experienced, competent engineers in the UK.
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			<title>bubulindo on "“Project Idea” contest – win a STM32F4DISCOVERY kit"</title>
			<link>http://forums.leaflabs.com/topic.php?id=1297#post-7838</link>
			<pubDate>Sun, 22 Jan 2012 23:58:05 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description>&#60;p&#62;&#34;I'd expect a competent engineer to earn over $200/day, for an 8 hour day.&#34;&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;Know where I can find such a job?
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			<title>gbulmer on "“Project Idea” contest – win a STM32F4DISCOVERY kit"</title>
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			<pubDate>Sun, 22 Jan 2012 12:26:28 +0000</pubDate>
			<dc:creator>gbulmer</dc:creator>
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			<description>&#60;p&#62;Thomas Jespersen - An STM32F4-DISCOVERY is $17.83&#60;br /&#62;
&#60;a href=&#34;http://www2.mouser.com/ProductDetail/STMicroelectronics/STM32F4DISCOVERY/?qs=J2qbEwLrpCGdWLY96ibNeQ%3d%3d&#34; rel=&#34;nofollow&#34;&#62;http://www2.mouser.com/ProductDetail/STMicroelectronics/STM32F4DISCOVERY/?qs=J2qbEwLrpCGdWLY96ibNeQ%3d%3d&#60;/a&#62;&#60;br /&#62;
Say there is postage and packing too, maybe $20.&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;I'd expect a competent engineer to earn over $200/day, for an 8 hour day.&#60;br /&#62;
So you are offering &#60;strong&#62;one chance&#60;/strong&#62; to win the equivalent of 4/5ths of an hour, or 48 minutes of work!&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;Let's say there are 100 ideas, so an entrant has a probability of 1/100th of winning that 4/5ths of an hour.&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;It doesn't sound compelling to me, but that is just me.&#60;br /&#62;
It might be okay for someone who can't build their idea.&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;Who owns the idea?&#60;br /&#62;
Who owns the results?&#60;br /&#62;
Does the person who proposed the idea get a built product?&#60;br /&#62;
What if the product takes off, what fraction of revenue does the provider of the idea get?
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			<title>Thomas Jespersen on "“Project Idea” contest – win a STM32F4DISCOVERY kit"</title>
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			<pubDate>Sun, 22 Jan 2012 11:21:26 +0000</pubDate>
			<dc:creator>Thomas Jespersen</dc:creator>
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			<description>&#60;p&#62;Are you interested in winning a free STM32F4DISCOVERY kit?&#60;br /&#62;
The kit is made by STMicroelectronics and contains their new STMF4 microcontroller with a Cortex-M4 core with FPU and better performance.&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;If you are going around with a good idea for an electronics project with some kind of microprocessor then write the idea to us - the category/theme doesn't matter!&#60;br /&#62;
We will then select the best idea and idea owner will get a free kit. In the meanwhile we will try to complete the project and upload details, pictures and source codes.&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;You can read more about the contest, the rules and which mail you should send your ideas to at our blog: &#60;a href=&#34;http://blog.tkjelectronics.dk/2012/01/project-idea-contest-win-a-stm32f4discovery-kit/&#34; rel=&#34;nofollow&#34;&#62;http://blog.tkjelectronics.dk/2012/01/project-idea-contest-win-a-stm32f4discovery-kit/&#60;/a&#62;
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